Before buying these I was using the Evolv Supras, and I gotta say that the Supras were great beginner shoes, but about 6 months into climbing, after becoming a lot more experienced, I bought a pair of these. They are more aggressive than the Supras, and I also like how theres only two straps instead of three. The heel is also nice and tight and provides great support. The shoes are perfect if you are 6mo-1yr into climbing and looking to upgrade!