The first time I ran into these holds was at my local climbing gym. They always seemed to show up in the right place to clip on lead when on the verge of falling. They are “Juggy” but not too easy on the overhangs. I liked them so much they were the first set of holds I bought for my home woody. You can’t go wrong with a set of these holds. They give you a lot of good route setting options and mix well with other holds...especially the crimpy ones. High recommend them!